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Whilst some of the items I am about to mention may have already been discussed in bits and bats I am just curious as to how Wakefield can maintain their stance on the fact that their current ground is their alternative plan to Newmarket when it is clear that the lease company have started to tout Belle Vue for sale via a property consultant.
Interesting point that is raised by the property consultants is that Wakefield will vacate Belle Vue by the end of 2011 which leads me to two questions/comments:
1: Why would anybody no matter what position within the club spend money on redeveloping the ground if they are due to leave once the supposed work is completed.
2: No planning permission has been requested yet for the redevelopment works so the RFL can only assume the outcome, surely the most positive thing to do would be to show the RFL that permission has been requested and upon being granted the upgrading of Belle Vue will commence.
I would also question the cost of the upgrades, surely to do the amount of work suggested would cost more than 500K, I could be off mark with this but in construction terms 500k seems a little tight.
I may be wrong on the above items but it seems a little strange to say the least that a property company is trying to find a buyer. Either the Wakefield management are under the impression that they will be granted a new lease or some people are trying to sugar-coat a possible bad situation before any licence decision.
Whilst this may appear to most of you I am a Castleford fan trying to stir dirt, there has been a lot of emphasis on the fact that Wakefield are going to bring their current stadium up to SL standard for 2012 onwards which makes them on par with my team in regards to stadium facilities. Although Castleford may not be in a nice shiny new stadium, we do currently own our ground and will own the ground at Glasshoughton, there isn’t going to be a case of the lease company coming to Castleford and saying you have to move out as we are selling the land to a property developer. When Castleford do move it will be on our own terms.
Below is a link to the Dove Haigh Phillips document (Link near bottom of webpage).
www.sendspace.com/file/ro967w
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Whilst some of the items I am about to mention may have already been discussed in bits and bats I am just curious as to how Wakefield can maintain their stance on the fact that their current ground is their alternative plan to Newmarket when it is clear that the lease company have started to tout Belle Vue for sale via a property consultant.
Interesting point that is raised by the property consultants is that Wakefield will vacate Belle Vue by the end of 2011 which leads me to two questions/comments:
1: Why would anybody no matter what position within the club spend money on redeveloping the ground if they are due to leave once the supposed work is completed.
2: No planning permission has been requested yet for the redevelopment works so the RFL can only assume the outcome, surely the most positive thing to do would be to show the RFL that permission has been requested and upon being granted the upgrading of Belle Vue will commence.
I would also question the cost of the upgrades, surely to do the amount of work suggested would cost more than 500K, I could be off mark with this but in construction terms 500k seems a little tight.
I may be wrong on the above items but it seems a little strange to say the least that a property company is trying to find a buyer. Either the Wakefield management are under the impression that they will be granted a new lease or some people are trying to sugar-coat a possible bad situation before any licence decision.
Whilst this may appear to most of you I am a Castleford fan trying to stir dirt, there has been a lot of emphasis on the fact that Wakefield are going to bring their current stadium up to SL standard for 2012 onwards which makes them on par with my team in regards to stadium facilities. Although Castleford may not be in a nice shiny new stadium, we do currently own our ground and will own the ground at Glasshoughton, there isn’t going to be a case of the lease company coming to Castleford and saying you have to move out as we are selling the land to a property developer. When Castleford do move it will be on our own terms.
Below is a link to the Dove Haigh Phillips document (Link near bottom of webpage).
www.sendspace.com/file/ro967w
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| Wakefield won't be in the League next year IMO so it's not really worth debating. Cas are safe by virtue of the new ground getting the go ahead, their league performance & their youth setup.
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| and it continues...
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| I say kick both Wakefield and Castleford out for the good of this board....sorry...the game.
Do the decent thing and promote the Fax in exchange.
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| Quote Chris Dalton="Chris Dalton"Do the decent thing and promote the Fax in exchange.'"
Mate...I've just bought a new house overlooking Wellington Harbour (it is up to ESL standards though)

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| Like you say with Cas, Wakefield will also only be leaving BV on our terms. No matter who owns it (& who's to say that Glover might not take the opportunity to buy the ground back into the club's control) there's a restrictive covenant that requires BV to be the home of Wakefield Trinity unless they have another home ground to play at.
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| Quote RDM="RDM"Like you say with Cas, Wakefield will also only be leaving BV on our terms. No matter who owns it (& who's to say that Glover might not take the opportunity to buy the ground back into the club's control) there's a restrictive covenant that requires BV to be the home of Wakefield Trinity unless they have another home ground to play at.'"
Is there? Not according to that document posted in the OP.
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| Why have cas got planning permission but no money to actually built the stadium as yet. If AG if bluffing then savilles will see through it but in our franchise apppication there are a couple of options that will see Wakefield playing in a SL complient stadium next season if awarded a franchise. As for youth set up it was only last week the RFL were congratulated our youth set up it's just the first team that's letting us down at the moment but thats franchising for you.
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| Quote Him="Him"Is there? Not according to that document posted in the OP.'"
When planning permission for housing on belle Vue was granted last year it was part of the planning agreement that permission will be granted along as Wakefield Trinity has facilities to play elsewhere in the City
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Quote castigers13="castigers13"Whilst some of the items I am about to mention may have already been discussed in bits and bats I am just curious as to how Wakefield can maintain their stance on the fact that their current ground is their alternative plan to Newmarket when it is clear that the lease company have started to tout Belle Vue for sale via a property consultant.
Interesting point that is raised by the property consultants is that Wakefield will vacate Belle Vue by the end of 2011 which leads me to two questions/comments:
1: Why would anybody no matter what position within the club spend money on redeveloping the ground if they are due to leave once the supposed work is completed.
2: No planning permission has been requested yet for the redevelopment works so the RFL can only assume the outcome, surely the most positive thing to do would be to show the RFL that permission has been requested and upon being granted the upgrading of Belle Vue will commence.
I would also question the cost of the upgrades, surely to do the amount of work suggested would cost more than 500K, I could be off mark with this but in construction terms 500k seems a little tight.
I may be wrong on the above items but it seems a little strange to say the least that a property company is trying to find a buyer. Either the Wakefield management are under the impression that they will be granted a new lease or some people are trying to sugar-coat a possible bad situation before any licence decision.
Whilst this may appear to most of you I am a Castleford fan trying to stir dirt, there has been a lot of emphasis on the fact that Wakefield are going to bring their current stadium up to SL standard for 2012 onwards which makes them on par with my team in regards to stadium facilities. Although Castleford may not be in a nice shiny new stadium, we do currently own our ground and will own the ground at Glasshoughton, there isn’t going to be a case of the lease company coming to Castleford and saying you have to move out as we are selling the land to a property developer. When Castleford do move it will be on our own terms.
Below is a link to the Dove Haigh Phillips document (Link near bottom of webpage).
www.sendspace.com/file/ro967w'"
As has already been said it is Savilles job to review all the ground related elements of the franchise application and they will obviously report any issues they believe exist with our proposal to remain at Belle Vue until NM is ready (assuming it gets past the PI) to the RFL. In short there are people far more capable than you or I who will review the proposal so nothing for you or anyone else to worry about.
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Quote castigers13="castigers13"Whilst some of the items I am about to mention may have already been discussed in bits and bats I am just curious as to how Wakefield can maintain their stance on the fact that their current ground is their alternative plan to Newmarket when it is clear that the lease company have started to tout Belle Vue for sale via a property consultant.
Interesting point that is raised by the property consultants is that Wakefield will vacate Belle Vue by the end of 2011 which leads me to two questions/comments:
1: Why would anybody no matter what position within the club spend money on redeveloping the ground if they are due to leave once the supposed work is completed.
2: No planning permission has been requested yet for the redevelopment works so the RFL can only assume the outcome, surely the most positive thing to do would be to show the RFL that permission has been requested and upon being granted the upgrading of Belle Vue will commence.
I would also question the cost of the upgrades, surely to do the amount of work suggested would cost more than 500K, I could be off mark with this but in construction terms 500k seems a little tight.
I may be wrong on the above items but it seems a little strange to say the least that a property company is trying to find a buyer. Either the Wakefield management are under the impression that they will be granted a new lease or some people are trying to sugar-coat a possible bad situation before any licence decision.
Whilst this may appear to most of you I am a Castleford fan trying to stir dirt, there has been a lot of emphasis on the fact that Wakefield are going to bring their current stadium up to SL standard for 2012 onwards which makes them on par with my team in regards to stadium facilities. Although Castleford may not be in a nice shiny new stadium, we do currently own our ground and will own the ground at Glasshoughton, there isn’t going to be a case of the lease company coming to Castleford and saying you have to move out as we are selling the land to a property developer. When Castleford do move it will be on our own terms.
Below is a link to the Dove Haigh Phillips document (Link near bottom of webpage).
www.sendspace.com/file/ro967w'"
As has already been said it is Savilles job to review all the ground related elements of the franchise application and they will obviously report any issues they believe exist with our proposal to remain at Belle Vue until NM is ready (assuming it gets past the PI) to the RFL. In short there are people far more capable than you or I who will review the proposal so nothing for you or anyone else to worry about.
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| Quote M62 J30 TRINITY="M62 J30 TRINITY"When planning permission for housing on belle Vue was granted last year it was part of the planning agreement that permission will be granted along as Wakefield Trinity has facilities to play elsewhere in the City'"
I have no reason to disbelieve you, I'm just surprised that, if true, it doesn't appear in that document, nor can I see it mentioned in the planning decision.
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